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Today I decided to show you whether or not ram speed can matter when it comes to gaming computers... but I didn't expect this level of result
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So now that we've got the testbench actually working, we can get on to the video that we planned on filming earlier this week regarding RAM speed and directly how it not to be confused Rammstein, that's something completely different boom hast, but I've had a lot of questions recently regarding how fast Ram they should buy.
A lot of people send me their parts lists and stuff and I people seem confused.
Like do I need slow Ram.
Will it matter? - I need fast Ram, so today we're gonna kind of take a trip down that path, specifically with some gaming titles.
A few production titles, as well as our 99 hundred KS.
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So what we've done here is tried to create a little bit of a bottlenecking situation.
We do have a 99 hundred KS, that's at stock speeds, we didn't overclock it any farther and we have 16 gigabytes of g.skill, try to z, non RGB memory, but this is the 38 66 XMP profile version.
We have a 20 atti gaming trio from MSI because we're trying to push a lot of frames per second, because we really want to find the scenario which we can see.
There be a tangible difference between memory speeds and then the motherboard we're using is a z3 90 dark from EVGA.
This is one their overclocking board does kind of got the funky layout with the RAM turned sideways, so they can get all the power together, but none of that really is going to matter.
There's a few things that you're gonna want to do to sort of prepare for this you're gonna want to probably update your BIOS if you're running new, fast memory when it comes to the memory tables and the speeds and XMP compatibility, and all of that Ram is constantly kind of updating and getting faster and getting larger, and your motherboard might need a BIOS update to be able to support it.
You probably might need a BIOS update also to support a newer CPU that came out after a particular motherboard, as you saw in our last video, but moving forward.
Let's go and talk about this.
The speed that you see on the RAM stick itself.
In this case the ballistics is a twenty four hundred megahertz.
You can see the timings right there next to it.
It's always on the label that speed is the rated XMP or extreme memory profile or an aim DS case a do CP the maximum speed, the kit the RAM is rated to.
It does not run that speed out of the box.
So what we sort of wanted to demonstrate here today is, if you built the system and just left it, as is it touched nothing and then changed one setting enabling the XMP profile.
Will you gain more performance now, there's some things that you're going to probably want to know to know how to do that, and every single BIOS is going to be different, so you're going to want to maybe watch a tutorial or actually look at the manual that comes with your motherboard.
They do have BIOS pages in there to kind of explain some of the basic settings instead of having to sit there and mash delete, there's a simple way from inside your operating system.
To that you can also get to your BIOS and we're going to show you that now, if you click the little window, click the power button and then shift click, restart troubleshoot, Advanced, Options, UEFI, firmware settings.
So what that's telling the motherboard is hey restart into your BIOS I thought.
I'd show you guys that little trick well we're assuming people's computers are working though it's fine, it's a feature guys.
It works.
I promise watch! Oh no! It's stuck at a six.
This is exactly what happened last time.
I'm gonna build a new test bench.
So after a simple reboot, you know it's really easy.
You go into your setup and at least in the EVGA BIOS things are very, very simplified.
So what you're gonna want to look for in your settings a lot of times, they're gonna, be under the main pages, where you're gonna find CPU settings as well as Ram you brakes memory out into a different tab.
So you can see right here what our memory currently is, but you can see what we paid for.
So it's a ddr4 30 867, it's funny that says 38 66 on the actual sticks but whatever.
But what you'll notice too is the timings.
Are me quite a bit different at 20, 133 or slower memory, you're getting tighter timings, but when you speed up the memory, you're gonna get looser timings and there's reasons for that, but a lot of the times this number will reign dominant over this one.
Unless you're doing a lot of fine tuning of very specific types of overclocks, like we've done with our Yoel into overclocking and stuff, you don't need to worry about timings right now.
So what we're going to show you here is the difference between all of this set to manual or auto, and then how much performance you'll either gain or lose by switching it to the higher speed and the reason why I say potentially lose is because, as timings loosen, different types of programs are gonna have different.
You know responses to what you do with the memory now enabling XMP is pretty simple: you'll just go into your memory.
Wherever it says memory profiles, it might say XMP instead of memory profile right now, it's set to automatic, which is simply out of the box settings, which is all the base stuff.
But if you select XMP profile, 1 that'll give us these numbers right here.
Some dims might even have a setting for do CPN, XMP that way, they're optimized for Intel or AMD, but obviously we have to get all of our baselines, which means we are out of the box factory.
We built the system change nothing in the BIOS, and this is what the performance looks like now.
What we did was.
We chose 3, CPU titles and 3 gaming, titles and 3 gaming.
Titles that we chose are one that have pretty good trade-offs when it comes to both CPU and GPU.
We're also running these tests at 1080p, maximum or Ultra settings wherever the highest settings are available to the titles.
None of them are our TX titles, and none of them have DL SS enabled if they have the feature available to them.
This is just good old, CUDA core performance with a 2080 ti that is overclocked + 100 megahertz.
On the core, which is bringing it to just under 20, 100, megahertz, total and then plus 750 megahertz on the memory, because again we're trying to create a situation here where we are CPU limited because we want to see if we get to that point, is there performance on that loss on the table and then what we're going to do is we're going to just enable XMP profile and run those tests again now, in terms of CPU we're running the blender BMW benchmark, we are running Cinebench r20, which is an AV X instruction, and then we are running 3dmark x, pi, which is a 1440p title, but it has also combined tests with, as well as a physics test which is run specifically on the CPU.
It will give us a score of CPU and GPU and a combined score.
So we have three figures there to compare.
So let's go ahead and see how they did all right now, gonna be honest here, Phil and I had some predictions going into this and I don't think either.
One of us were really right.
I had anticipated making this video, specifically with the mention of saying, hey paying for faster memory, is probably not worth it for a gaming machine, so just buy the lesser speed memory if it's on sale and less expensive and save yourself some money and put it into a better GPU.
If you had follow that advice, if I had said that, then you put a potentially bottleneck to yourself or created a less optimal situation where you're not getting all the performance you paid for, as you can see, by looking at the charts, both far cry.
5 and shadow of the Tomb Raider gained nearly 30 FPS by simply enabling the XMP profile, if you're playing at 1080p.
Now that becomes a huge, diminishing return, though, if you start upping the resolution, because the more you up the resolution, the more you trade off CPU bound for GPU bout, where the GPU is much more responsible for creating a higher resolution.
Gameplay, which means the CPU, is having less frames per second to deal with the more frames we throw at the CPU.
The more the RAM speed became evident in two of the three titles.
Wildlands is a title that is very CPU bound.
It's a large world and even the benchmark is very CPU intensive.
It even shows you the minimum of maximum CPU load during the title we only gained 3 fps in wildlands, but what's funny is blender only gained 2 seconds when it came to the BMW vendor Blender benchmark the bender blench mark known, don't do blench mark that's a different F.
Anyway, we only gained 2 seconds, which is margin of error that that we could have probably varied 2 or 4 seconds in either direction.
Every test, Cinebench, r20, technically lost 2 points, but again that's the same margin of error.
When it comes to that test.
We read it multiple times and we're getting the same averages across the board and then 3dmark, which again is a cpu AVX instruction on the cpu and then the gaming performance in terms of GPU gains score across the board.
We gained combined, we gained GPU and we gain CPU in a tangible amount.
These are differences that you would notice when playing your games.
If you're playing titles that are gonna benefit from an XMP profile- and you saw that who we gained nearly 30 FPS in or actually I think we gained 32 FPS or something around that line with far cry 5 alone, then it simply means that you're gonna gain performance in older titles, where you would have even potentially higher FPS now I know.
A lot of this can be negated simply by overclocking the CPU a little bit more and then running a higher resolution.
I, don't think many people are gonna, be running this type of hardware with a 1080p panel.
This panel clearly is a 1440p, but we want we needed to show what the tangible difference is.
We're gonna be in the scenario at which, according to the steam Hardware survey shows, this is still the dominant resolution in more than 70% of gaming machines that are currently registered on Steam, so it's relevant to many many people.
So if you haven't already gone into your BIOS and said, oh I should probably enable this XMP profile, and you didn't even know that that existed then you're welcome, because we probably just handed you some free performance, you didn't even know was there, but there's definitely gonna be a point at which there's a diminishing return like we said, and that's gonna, be the higher the resolution, the less that's going to matter.
So at this point, there's clearly an infinite amount of titles and desktop software out there different workflows that are gonna, react differently to memory, speeds and timings and whatnot.
So this is where you guys sound off in the comments below.
If you have found a title or a game, that is extremely memory and memory, speed, dependent put it down in the comments below and maybe we'll see about, adding some of these things to our future benchmarking.
When we do things like Ram testing and and all of that so guys thanks for watching today's video I just wanted it.
This is a topic we've talked about in the past we've shown in the past, but I don't think.
We've actually gone in there and truly researched and found titles that truly reacted to XMP profile.
In fact, in the past you can even find in older videos that I've done this is when Ram was a lot slower.
I mean this is when like 1333 was the baseline and 1800 was super fast Ram, and we saw that things were not quite as beneficial.
In fact, you might gain one or two fps across the board.
This was a pretty significant improvement.
Now, those of you running AMD systems.
If you are running AMD, first gen rise n, you are gonna notice, a significant improvement to performance with memory, speed improvements because of the way the Infinity fabric worked in first generation, but with second gen and third well 3000 series, because now we are in rising 2, which is 3000 series rise in 1000 in 2000, our first gen rising you're gonna find that it is very, very different in the way that the memory speed affects the performance and what I mean by that is very very little because they really made it efficient.
The way the Infinity fabric works in that clock.
Speed between the two is much faster than it was in the first gen so now you're, seeing a lot less of a discussion about RAM speed, mattering as much on AMD as it did before, but you would potentially see the same exact results that we saw right here with a slower speed, CPU, which, in terms of clock, speed rise ends, still capping out about 4.2 gigahertz, when overclocked on desktop would probably see potentially an even better improvement than we saw on Intel.
So if you want to see us do the same test with AMD, let us know by commenting below thanks for watching guys and as always, we'll see you in the next one.
FAQs
Does RAM speed actually matter? ›
Does RAM Speed Matter? RAM speed does have an impact on frames per second, especially in 1080p, but it's not as essential as you may think. RAM capacity is often considered more important on the whole.
Does RAM speed matter in gaming? ›For gaming, there are advantages to running RAM with high-rated speeds. Although it won't have as profound an effect as upgrading the processor or graphics card, faster RAM can improve game performance and frame rates.
Why doesn't the speed of RAM matter? ›Your RAM's speed does not alter how fast your CPU goes, even when overclocked or hyper-threaded, but it can slow the CPU down depending on if your RAM is full or not. For the most part, the faster your RAM speed is, the more likely you are going to have success working on large files.
Is amount of RAM more important than speed? ›The speed of RAM is the rate at which the memory can move data and, for specific tasks, can be more important than the size of memory. When determining how much RAM you will need, remember to consider the tasks you will perform.
How much difference does RAM speed make? ›The difference the speed of RAM makes to gaming is very small at the end of the day. Moreover, faster memory is expensive and the money can be better spent on buying a better GPU, CPU or even more memory, which will make a bigger and more noticeable difference in performance while gaming.
What is a good RAM speed? ›In terms of memory speed, you should look for DDR4 memory that operates close to or above 2,400MHz—or 2400MT/s as it'll appear on the packaging and online. Users purchasing DDR5 RAM will want 4,800MHz or higher. You don't necessarily need to buy the fastest RAM either, as it's easy enough to overclock your memory.
Does faster RAM speed mean more FPS? ›RAM Speed. A more important aspect of RAM that you should concern yourself with when selecting a kit for gaming is the operating speed/XMP speed of this specific kit. Nowadays most gaming PCs use 3600MHz or higher RAM speeds to ensure overall smoother FPS performance.
Are higher RAM speeds better? ›Generally, the faster the RAM, the faster the processing speed. With faster RAM, you increase the speed at which memory transfers information to other components. Meaning, your fast processor now has an equally fast way of talking to the other components, making your computer much more efficient.
Is 32GB of RAM overkill for gaming? ›32GB of RAM is considered high and is generally overkill for most users. For most everyday use and basic tasks such as web browsing, email, and basic office work, 8GB of RAM is more than enough. Even for gaming or video editing, 16GB is typically sufficient.
Does RAM affect FPS? ›Having enough memory for the games you want to play is recommended for any gamer who wants to improve their gaming experience and benefit from faster loading times. RAM will boost your system's responsiveness, load the game faster, and improve frame rates.
Is more RAM better than faster RAM for gaming? ›
What is better more RAM or faster RAM? Faster RAM will give your PC better performance in certain specific benchmarks, but in terms of actual benefit to most users, having more RAM available is almost always better than having faster RAM. If you have an Integrated GPU, Then having more RAM is more Benefitial to you !
Why is RAM speed limited? ›If your CPU does not support the frequencies of the XMP profile, your RAM will only run at the maximum speed supported by the CPU. E.g. If your RAM has an XMP profile of 4000 MHz and your CPU only supports memory speeds of up to 3200 MHz, your RAM will only run at 3200 MHz. It's the same deal with motherboards.
What happens if you use RAM with higher speed? ›If you try to install and use a RAM module that operates beyond the speeds that the CPU and the motherboard can support, it will lead to unstable system performance and/or boot issues.
How much RAM do I really need? ›How much RAM do you need? Generally, we recommend 8GB of RAM for casual computer usage and internet browsing, 16GB for spreadsheets and other office programs, and at least 32GB for gamers and multimedia creators. How you use your computer influences how much RAM you need, so use this as a guideline.
Does more RAM slow down your computer? ›If all RAM space is used up when you have many programs open, the computer starts using the virtual memory on the hard drive, slowing down the computer a bit. Additional memory prevents this from happening. You will notice a better PC performance when browsing the internet after a RAM upgrade.
Is 3200MHz better than 2666MHz? ›Other than benchmarks, there is no noticeable difference between 2666MHz and 3200MHz RAM for gaming and general uses. 3200 RAM is better because it has faster memory which undoubtedly would be useful for programs and jobs that primarily rely on RAM.
Is 64 GB RAM overkill? ›Is 64/128 GB of RAM Overkill? For the majority of users, it is. If you plan on building a PC purely for gaming and some general, basic, everyday activity, 64 GB of RAM is just too much. The amount of RAM you need will ultimately depend on your workload.
Does RAM speed have to match motherboard? ›While installing new RAM in your computer is an easy, straightforward process, it's important to check compatibility with your motherboard first. Whether you're looking to upgrade or build a new PC from scratch, the motherboard and RAM must be compatible for the new memory to fit your system.
What is the most common RAM speed? ›Frequencies of RAM typically range from 800MHz in older DDR2 modules up to 6800MHz in DDR5.
What is a good RAM speed for a laptop? ›Work: 8GB of RAM is fine for daily productivity. If you do a lot of processing, consider upgrading to 16GB or more. Gaming: With games demanding more on computer systems, 16GB to 32GB of RAM is ideal.
Which brand of RAM is best? ›
- Corsair: The Vengeance RAM line is a trademark of the US-based Corporation Corsair. ...
- G. SKILL: ...
- Kingston : Kingston cannot be disregarded while discussing memory-related components. ...
- Crucial : Crucial is a division of Micron. ...
- Samsung : ...
- Adata ram: ...
- Hynix ram:
If you already have a decent amount of RAM (say, 16GB), adding more RAM will probably not increase your FPS in most games and scenarios as there still aren't very many games that utilize more than 16GB of memory.
Does RAM improve graphics? ›For rendering graphics, VRAM does a lot of the grunt work, which means that if you're working with an older GPU with a limited stash of VRAM, you're likely to see much more significant improvements in performance by increasing the amount of RAM available to your system.
Is DDR4 better than DDR5? ›Compared to DDR4, DDR5 RAM kits have a higher base speed, support higher-capacity DIMM modules (also called RAM sticks), and consume less power for the same performance specs as the previous generation. However, DDR4 still holds some key advantages, like overall lower latency and better stability.
Can fast RAM run slower? ›Memory is designed to be backward compatible within its generation, so generally speaking, you can safely add faster memory to a computer that was designed to run slower memory. However, your system will operate at the speed of the slowest memory module installed.
Is 1 TB of RAM overkill? ›Is 1TB of RAM overkill? On most systems, RAM is one of the worst limiting factors when running virtual machines. With 1TB of RAM, this is no longer a concern. That much RAM lets you spin up dozens of virtual systems without impacting overall system performance.
Is 128 GB RAM overkill? ›For most computer users, 128 GB of RAM is overkill as excess RAM will not improve the performance of the system unless the user is running highly specialized applications that require massive amounts of memory. Such applications may include scientific simulations, virtualization, or machine learning.
Is 16 GB RAM overkill? ›16GB of RAM is considered the 'sweet spot. ' It allows for solid game playing, high-intensity work with computer programs, and gives you a fair amount of memory. If you want to be a serious gamer, 16Gb might be your ideal setup.
What game uses the most RAM? ›- Hogwarts Legacy. Trailer. 83 % ...
- Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered. Trailer. 87 % ...
- God of War. Trailer. 94 % ...
- Red Dead Redemption 2. Trailer. 92 % ...
- Dying Light 2: Stay Human. Trailer. ...
- Uncharted: The Legacy of Thieves Collection. Trailer. ...
- Forspoken. Trailer. ...
- Cyberpunk 2077. Trailer.
Upgrading to an SSD won't increase your FPS, but it can result in an improvement in some open-world titles with game engines that load in new areas and textures as you play.
Does GPU increase FPS? ›
A faster graphics card delivers higher frame rates that let you see things earlier and give you a better chance of hitting targets. That is why players with better graphics cards average higher Kill/Death (KD) ratios. NVIDIA GeForce GPUs deliver the highest FPS for competitive games.
What is the fastest DDR5 RAM? ›Kingston Fury Beast DDR5 32GB 6000Mhz
This RAM rocks 6,000Mhz speed in a 32GB package. Though the timings might not be as fast as DDR4 RAM (it's CL40-40-40) it's still able to deliver the goods. And with a speed rating that's almost double that of most DDR4 sticks, it's pretty nifty.
RAM (random access memory) is a key component in any gaming PC. Adding more RAM can boost system responsiveness and improve frame rates when compared to systems with less memory.
Is 16GB RAM always better than 8GB? ›The increased capacity that 16GB of RAM provides over 8GB makes it the clear winner. 8GB of RAM may be suitable for basic functions, but it quickly seizes up when multiple programs try to operate at the same time. You might not always need 16GB of RAM but you'll be happy to have it when push comes to shove.
Does RAM speed have to match CPU? ›With modern CPUs the memory controller is built directly into the CPU itself, which means different types of CPUs may support different speeds of memory. So while a motherboard may support up to 2133 MT/s (Megatransfers per second) DDR3, most CPUs will not support that memory speed by default.
Why is my 3200MHz RAM running at 2666? ›Many people don't know this, but 3200MHz RAM by default will always be set to 2666 (technically 2667). This is because some older CPUs can't handle too high of speeds and they wouldn't want to cause an immediate crash when you're building your PC.
What is the maximum RAM for a CPU? ›CPU Bit. If a computer is running a 32-bit processor, the maximum amount of RAM it can address is 4GB. Computers running 64-bit processors can hypothetically handle hundreds of terabytes of RAM.
How much MHz RAM do I need? ›When it comes to speed, you want to look for DDR4 RAM that runs around 3,600MHz/3,200MHz for modern CPUs. This should give your CPU enough bandwidth cushion to handle gaming and work-related tasks. The other important stat to consider is CAS latency.
What happens if your RAM is too slow? ›When the system is low on memory, it swaps out a bit of the RAM memory from an idle program, as the name suggests, freeing up room on the hard drive for other programs to run. As a result of this process, though, loads of hard disk reading and writing takes place, slowing your computer down.
What happens if I use slower RAM? ›Some motherboards run fine with slower RAM (just a bit slower), others will have issues. But you can't damage the computer by trying. Just install the strips and then run memtest86+ for at least half an hour. If it comes through without showing any errors it should work fine.
Can too much RAM be bad? ›
Adding too much RAM will eventually jeopardize the computer's performance, even when you have enough of it. The additional RAM will start applying the law of diminishing returns at a certain point, meaning you won't get much value from it.
Is it better to have more RAM or more storage? ›More RAM will make it easier for your computer to perform multiple tasks at once, while upgrading your storage will improve battery life, make it faster to open applications and files, and give you more space for photos and applications.
When should I upgrade my RAM? ›- You try to boot your computer and it takes a long time to load.
- You experience poor performance in everyday tasks. ...
- You try to multitask and toggle between multiple programs, and your system slows to a crawl.
Opening large applications, software, or files requires a lot of RAM in order to use them efficiently. Upgrading the computer's memory will increase memory space and thus allow larger programs to run without slowdowns.
What makes the computer run faster? ›What makes a computer runfaster? A fast computer usually has a high processor speed and large amount of RAM. The higher these two factors are, the faster your computer will be.
What happens when RAM is full? ›If RAM fills up, the computer's processor must repeatedly go to the hard disk to overlay the old data in RAM with new data. This process slows the computer's operation. A computer's hard disk can become completely full of data and unable to take any more, but RAM won't run out of memory.
Is 3200MHz RAM good? ›Both 3200Mhz and 3600MHz of RAM have a very outstanding performance. They can be operated using the correct devices to give effective results. When compared to other RAM sizes, the performance of these two RAM sizes is excellent and highly recommended.
Is 4800 MHz RAM good? ›More Responsive Multitasking
The 4800MHz launch speed is comparable to DDR4 memory speeds under extreme performance and is two times faster than 3200MHz. Since it's optimised for multitasking, your computer will be more responsive.
That will ensure you're getting the most out of the best CPUs for gaming. For an Intel DDR5 system, a good kit around the 5200MHz range will be fine, while for a high-end system, you'll want something a little faster at 6000MHz or even 6400MHz if you really want to get every last drop of performance.
What happen if I put a 3200MHz on a 2666MHz RAM? ›3200MHZ ram will work fine on a 2666 board, albeit at 2666mhz, but no stablility problems should occour.
Is it worth upgrading from 3200MHz to 3600MHz? ›
Let's keep it simple. Amd ryzen processors recommend using 3600 mhz ram which significantly boosts ryzen's performance while most of the intel chips prefer to run on 2666 mhz untill you enable xmp profile (overclock). So I would recommend to go with 3200 mhz as you can overclock it to 3600 mhz .
Is 16GB 3200 better than 32GB 2666? ›In general, 32GB of RAM at 2666MHz is better than 16GB of RAM at 3200MHz for gaming and other high-performance applications. The reason for this is that RAM speed (measured in MHz) and capacity (measured in GB) both play important roles in a computer's performance.
Is 3600MHz RAM good 2023? ›You don't need the fastest RAM kit: We recommend spending on DDR4 memory with 3200MHz to 3600MHz frequencies for both Intel and AMD builds. The kits faster than these tend to jump up in price with less impact on the performance.
Is 16GB DDR4 3200MHz good for gaming? ›16GB is the recommended amount of RAM for playing most games and will provide a noticeable increase in performance from 8GB.
Does CPU limit RAM speed? ›The speed of your processor and the bus speed of the computer motherboard is the limiting factors on the speed of RAM installed in your computer. RAM upgrades are limited by the capability of the computer and the availability of expansion slots for adding RAM.
What is considered overkill for RAM? ›32GB of RAM is considered high and is generally overkill for most users. For most everyday use and basic tasks such as web browsing, email, and basic office work, 8GB of RAM is more than enough. Even for gaming or video editing, 16GB is typically sufficient.
What is the highest RAM GHz? ›Frequencies of RAM typically range from 800MHz in older DDR2 modules up to 6800MHz in DDR5.
What is the fastest DDR5 RAM in the world? ›Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 32GB 5,600MHz C36
This DDR5 RAM has more on offer than just great looks. It's also fast, stable and overclocking ready. A great choice for modern gaming PC builds. Corsair's Vengeance RGB has long been a favourite with PC gamers thanks to its clean aesthetic and great lighting.
Compared to DDR4, DDR5 RAM kits have a higher base speed, support higher-capacity DIMM modules (also called RAM sticks), and consume less power for the same performance specs as the previous generation.